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Patch Blog: Is Shopping Local the Best Way to Raise Funds for Schools?

Our children need fundraising more than ever, but our Monrovia merchants are overwhelmed by fundraising requests and suffering from our weak economy. How do we find a happy medium?

During the past couple of months, Monrovians have been having a lively discussion about fundraising.

It all began with a marquee at Clifton Middle School asking Monrovians . The next screen specified to save your receipts from certain dates. People were most likely shopping at the mall for Christmas, so what damage could this really do?

Well, lots, it seemed when our newest elect Board Member saw this advertising out of context. Mr. Hammond did what he is required to do when he has a question -- call the superintendent. Being the holidays, a decision was made, after another two calls were received, to pull off the Shop Westfield Mall advertisement.

It took over a month to make a decision to put the sign up, though now the highlight is to save your receipts. These actions caused lots of dialogue, , some at the PTA Council meeting, some at the Board's meeting. It unfortunately also caused some funds to be lost from the people that did shop at the Westfield Mall but did not know it would make a difference to our school fundraiser.

We now know that everyone had all of Monrovia's best interests at heart. Our PTA is concerned about raising funds, our Board of Education is concerned about making sure we shop Monrovia, but all of us know that Monrovia is part of the San Gabriel Valley and no one is asking to avoid shopping Monrovia. All that is being asked is that if you are already going to shop at the mall, why not turn in your receipts to help our schools?

To button this up really nicely, Mr. Rob Hammond has graciously agreed to donate an acoustic guitar for the upcoming "Surf's Up at the Mayflower Auction." Thank you Mr. Hammond! We look forward to seeing you at the auction!

If you, your family or friends (adults) would like to attend the the Mayflower fundraiser:

March 24th, 6-10pm
Cost: $40 per person, $75 per couple, plus money for the auction!!
Dinner is included, no-host bar
Dalcorp Car Museum
852 S. Alta Vista Ave,
Monrovia, CA

For ANY receipts you might have from the Westfield Mall, please turn them in to either Clifton (who REALLY needs funds) or Mayflower (who is always happy to get funds). Deadline is April 30th, 2012.

We have our Munch Accross Monrovia throughout local restaurants, please check the Patch, or with friends and family that have children at our MUSD schools for ongoing events. It is great to support our local restaurants while also helping our schools during these financial challenging times.

Tom Adams February 15, 2012 at 01:17 pm
If you look at the tax bill for the Arcadia Mall then look at the tax bill for the Huntington Oaks Shopping Center in Monrovia and compare how much each gives to our schools it should be a no brainer who to support. The Arcadia Mall gives 100% of it's tax money to Arcadia Schools, the Huntinfgton Oaks Shopping Center gives 100% of it's tax money to Monrovia Schools. You can add this up across the city and see how much money Monrovia Schools get from local businesses versus how much Monrovia Schools get from Arcadia businesses, the answer regarding Arcadia businesses is zero. We have all heard about the U.S. loosing jobs oversees, California loosing jobs to Texas, think about Monrovia?
Chris Ziegler February 15, 2012 at 02:23 pm
Tom,
Would you kindly provide links to the tax information cited (if you still have then handy)? Re Texas: MY wife's company was recently targeted by a Texas recruiting team and came very close to relocating to Austin, Texas. Here's what Texas had to offer (I have not verified the claims of the recruiters): -Lower rent. -No Taxes -Almost double the amount of college grads available for the workforce -Affordable housing prices (less pressure to pay high wages to workers) -Active communities - trails network, local lakes are accessible for water sports In the end, the company chose to stay put, the younger employees attitudes ranged from very supportive of the move to tolerant as they could now afford to buy a house and looked forward to enjoying healthier lifestyles. But the older employees, who sit in the seat of power, were too established and connected to their communities to relocate and they are compensated well enough to pay the high cost required to enjoy a decent quality of life in California.
Alex Zucco February 15, 2012 at 02:41 pm
When I spoke to Assm. Portantino's office -- they confirmed 0% of sales tax fund public education. Sales tax funds public safety, health & welfare and transportation. Public education funding is not like City funding and is set by a revenue limit that is NOT tied to sales tax.
Namaste February 15, 2012 at 05:27 pm
Well put Alex. If education did get the tax money, we wouldn't be in the sorry state of affairs we're in. Sounds like Mr. Adams is being his typical political self.
Joe Black February 15, 2012 at 05:51 pm
Why is "our Board of Education is concerned about making sure we shop Monrovia"? While we all can agree that supporting our local merchants is a great way to support our community, I am concerned why this should be a concern of the School Board. They should be welcoming the efforts of the PTA volunteers finding revenue sources when they themselves offer no options other than cutting teaches and programs as a way to make ends meet. It seems to me that Mr Hammond is more concerned about Mr Hammond as he is a local merchant. Mr Hammond should be more focussed on the quality of education provided to Monrovia youth rather than using his position to ensure he doesn't lose customers to vendors who are willing to support our schools.
Erin Thorn February 15, 2012 at 06:10 pm
Being the lazy shopper I am, i would love to stay in Monrovia and do 100% of my shopping, but cannot get everything I need here. Maybe another way of keeping our money here in Monrovia would be to work on geting those stores we lack here to Monrovia. We need a book store and a sporting goods store to start. Still, it's hard to keep up with the shops in the mall when all we have to compete with them is Marshall's, Kohl's and the little shops in Old Town that don't carry the brands of make-up, clothing and shoes that many of us like. Alex's point about sales tax dollars not funding public education is also something most of us failed to consider in the first round of this discussion. So I guess we're back at figuring out how best can the school's and the city help each other?
Gayle M. Montgomery February 15, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Tom I get it on supporting Monrovia businesses and who gives to whom. My question to you is was Huntington Oaks willing to do something comparable? The secondary consideration is one is open air and the other enclosed. In winter months (though you could argue we didn't have much of one though the school had to plan this as though we would), folks are more inclined to do things indoors. If shopping is the issue, it's difficult to compare the caliber of stores at Huntington Oaks with those at Westfield Plaza. I may be wrong, but Huntington Oaks is more of a mom and pop complex, and Westfields are all over and have more revenue to donate. They also have apps for the phones/tablets and do regular promos to lure customers (I have/get both). Does Huntington Oaks do something comparable? I HATE going to the mall, but it all depends upon which type of shopping I need to do as to where I'm going to spend my money. If I cannot do it online, brick and mortar with more stores meeting my needs is going to be where I go. For that reason, more of my dollars would go to the school if the mall was willing to donate.
Tom Adams February 15, 2012 at 11:20 pm
Gayle, I understand that we all need to leave Monrovia at times to shop, Monrovia just doesn't have everything. I have never been against the PTA having fundraisers anywhere, this whole issue started out because a sign at Clifton Middle Scool was directing people to a fundraiser in Arcadia. Some os us felt that it was wrong to take a sign purchased with tax money to direct people away from Monrovia where the money came from. I still believe that IF this community pulls together we will have more money that if we don't. Every effort starts out with an idea, IF all of Monrovia were to work together just think of what we can accomplish!
Tom Adams February 15, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Alex, take a look at property tax dollars, not just the base tax but the bonded taxes that we all voted for. I never said sales taxes, look at the big picture, I am sorry if you weren't given this but if I recall correctly, every parcel of property in Monrovia pays a lot to Monrovia Scools, every parcel in Arcadia pays nothing!
Carmen Martinez February 16, 2012 at 12:52 am
So, how does property taxes affect the shopping? Don't they have to pay property taxes regardless of revenue?
Carmen Martinez February 16, 2012 at 12:53 am
The marquee at Clifton was purchased with money fundraised by the PTA, it had nothing to do with our tax money. This was brought up at the PTA Council meeting.
Carmen Martinez February 16, 2012 at 12:55 am
Tom, I agree with you, all of Monrovia is working together! We need guitar lessons to go with Rob Hammond's generous donation for the Mayflower Surf Up Auction. Would you be so kind to donate some? We would also love to see you at the Auction. It is a fun event and all the funds go to benefit Mayflower's children.
Gayle M. Montgomery February 16, 2012 at 02:08 am
@Carmen, my assumption is the PTA is a bona fide 501(c)(3) organization with standing from the IRS (I say that because many nonprofits were booted last June for failing to file 990s). I have not checked the requirements, but The Milagro Foundation (founded by the amazingly talented Carlos Santana and his ex-wife) provides musical instruments to schools as I recall. Here is their website. Perhaps if you qualify, a grant could be written. http://www.milagrofoundation.org/
In addition, you may recall my blog from last month on DonorsChoose.org. The needs you have cited would be a great project to submit and then publicize. Best of luck.
Gayle M. Montgomery February 16, 2012 at 02:09 am
@Carmen, I used to fund part time for the LA Phil and their children's music programs. You might want to explore if there are any options there.
Gayle M. Montgomery February 16, 2012 at 02:13 am
And while I am at it, this is targeted for the high school crowd but should be on our community's radar. It's a great opportunity for kids with a musical inclination. This year Grammy Camp will be held at USC in July http://www.grammyintheschools.com/programs/grammy-camp
Carmen Martinez February 16, 2012 at 11:52 am
Thank you Gayle! The guitar came from Rob Hammond because of his pawn shop. I am suggesting guitar lessons from Tom Adams since he is a great member of our community and a good friend of Mr. Hammond. It would be nice to auction off a guitar with guitar lessons.
I don't know what the needs for music are for our kids, but I certainly will look into it. I know that the elementary schools have a program at Wildrose after school. The middle schools, especially Santa Fe, have a great music program, and so does the High School. We currently have a deficit of funds at some of the PTAs, we need to make sure we have that covered before we take more on. With that said, we would love to have you help us! I love your postings!
Gayle M. Montgomery February 16, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Thank you, Carmen. I'm a mom of 2 and grandmother of 4, and I know how much the schools struggle to make do. Part of the joy of funding for the Phil was that it was going to help to bring music to the lives of Southern California children since arts education was largely stripped from many schools as a result of budget deficits. If/when you determine what the school needs, you can find me on Facebook (my current photo is a beach scene taken from a prior vacation, and I don't use the M. on Facebook). If the group comes up with what it needs and wants to get together on a Saturday I'm not already tied up my own dimple darlings, we could review and come up with a way to make some of these things happen. I keep shelling out hand over fist for my own grandkids (this week alone it was $40 for my daughter's 2), and I am just aghast at how expensive it is to go to public school!
Tom Adams February 16, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Carmen, vibrant businesses pay more in property taxes than the rest. There seems to be much confusion on this, perhaps the districy could do a little class on where school money comes from, then we can all make better choices.
Gayle M. Montgomery February 16, 2012 at 01:50 pm
Tom, some time back, circa the Great American City timeframe, townhall workshops were held over a period of time at Second Baptist as I recall. It was a brainstorming session. Might this be the time to consider another one of those where subject matter experts in Community issues coukd hold small workshops, and the Community coukd then brainstorm more effectively on resolving our differences and improving our town? Seems to me the Y, Community Center, High School, or a church hall/ school might be a good place for such a "Sunday Go to Meeting" adventure. I see a lot of folks on Patch with concerns. I don't think Council meetings would be the place to do this, and something like this coukd make Council meetings easier. I am thinking a Saturday would be better. We have many passionate people who simply want their version of what is best for Monrovia. maybe bringing us all together face to face to collaborate may have merit. We all have talents that could be contributed. Thoughts?
Holly February 16, 2012 at 02:27 pm
Why is it when a PTA member outwardly asks Mr. Adams for a donation in these posts, he fails to respond? However, he responds when he disagrees with something we have to say.
Tom Adams February 16, 2012 at 02:49 pm
Holly, thanks for following my posts and pointing out what I may have missed. Sometimes I agree with comments here and sometimes I don't. It is the open dialogue that can lead to improvement. My common theme has been to look at what our shcools have and if you are content, then don't change a thing. On the other hand if you feel that our children are not being served well then something needs to change. If you think that something needs to change the best way to find a solution is to listen to all sides of an argumant. As for my domations, this may not be the best place to solocit donations but I am willing to match my contributions to Monrovia Schools against just about anyones.
Gayle M. Montgomery February 16, 2012 at 02:52 pm
Having personally benefitted by an in kind donation Mr. Adams supplied to a nonprofit with which I was closely aligned last year, I know him to be very generous. I also believe he is repeatedly asked for support from the community. He is a successful business man with multiple offices to now oversee, is a staunch supporter of the community via his tenure on the Council, and the many events he spearheads and attends. He is a loving husband and grandfather. There is only so much support you can expect from one person, and yes, as a matter of fact, I am a fan! I wish we could clone his community spirit, break it off, and pass it out around town so that more would demonstrate such citizenship. I am Gayle Montgomery, and this message was not paid for by the reelect Tom Adams Committeee LOL.
Alex Zucco February 16, 2012 at 03:14 pm
As I understand it, while property owners pay property tax, not every business owner is a property owner. And as with personal property, property tax only increases upon a sale of the property - not increased sales. And the only time our property taxes going up would actually help the schools, is if they were to go up so drastically, we could become a Basic Aid District (like Beverly Hills, Newport or Saratoga - only 100 of the over 1,000 CA School Districts are Basic Aid). Here is a great link to how schools are funded: http://www.edsource.org/iss_fin_sys_revenues.html and of special note - the line below the pie chart on: Property taxes: are collected locally but allocated to schools based on a state-determined formula. (Cities and counties also receive a guaranteed amount of property tax revenue.) So while an information session on how schools are funded is a great idea -- I would much rather spend my time and energy talking about academic achievement, student progress, and other items related to what goes on IN the classroom and not on a topic that has nothing to do with educating our children.
And as a point of clarification: Tom Adams does donate to our schools, not only financially but with in-kind donations...allowing schools to use his businesses resources. Please join us on Weds., Feb. 22nd @ 7pm for the next Board meeting – hopefully this will be an extremely brief discussion and the schools can start talking about education again.
Tom Adams February 16, 2012 at 03:21 pm
Alex, you are partially correct. There are others taxes that as a non-business owner you may not be aware of. You are referring to "real" property taxes but there are other forms of property that are not clissified as "real property". That is why I think a lesson on where your money comes from might be a good idea. It becomes impossible to have a plan unless you know hwere your money comes from. Imagine a farmer needing to harvest a crop but not knowing what field it is in?
Clifton Mom February 16, 2012 at 09:00 pm
Is anyone going to respond to the fact that PTA paid for the Clifton Marquee??? Not tax dollars???
Carmen Martinez February 16, 2012 at 09:48 pm
I agree with Gayle and Alex, although Tom Adams and I do not always see things the same way, I truly appreciate all he does for our community! I got a chance to volunteer with him last year and he worked harder than anyone there!
PTA is not asking Monrovians to change our shopping habits, we are asking to leverage what we already do. If you, your family or friends happen to shop at the Westfield malls, please send your receipts to Clifton. You can physically send them there, you can mail them (226 South Ivy Avenue, Monrovia, CA 91016, attn Kim Petulla), or take them to the concierge at the mall. Lots of people shop online, Mr. Adams has a family member that is a fan of Chico, which has a brick and mortar store at the mall, how difficult would it be if for one time instead of shopping online at Chico, JC Penney, etc, we can walk to the actual store, do the shopping we were ALREADY going to do and give the receipt to Clifton? I am certain not one single person has changed their shopping habits based on the Clifton marquee sign. We all love our little boutique shops, the Doll Maker, the amazing restaurants we have in town. Lots of people participated at the Wine event on Myrtle as well as the New Year celebrations. The Farmer's Market & street fair is always buzzing with activity. As our economy continues to improve, so will our town!
Chris Ziegler February 17, 2012 at 02:07 pm
Alex,
Thanks so much for the link! If I understand the charts correctly, buying anything anywhere in the state of California supports education since state sales taxes are the single largest source of funding. While we are on the subject of finances: My neighbor is a pastor of a church and he claims they just saved some money by working with Solar City and entering into a solar lease program. There was zero out of pocket cost to the church and over time, as rates increase, the savings will increase. Although we are likely moving to Pasadena for the next school year, if we were to stay in Monrovia, we would be interested in a hybrid of public and private education i.e. MUSD partner/sublease with private education providers so that our child can stay on campus for additional education both academic and phys ed. Seems wasteful to send parents rushing all over town to tutors and athletics when our existing facilities are underutilized - this model would be good for the city since gyms and academic businesses do not generate as much revenue as retail and reducing traffic enhances quality of life and increases property values.

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